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Beyond Whack-a-Mole: Jaigris Hodson on Tackling Canada’s Information ‘Syndemic’

Jaigris Hodson, Canada Research Chair in Digital Misinformation, Polarization and Online Anti-Social Media at Royal Roads University, describes our current moment as an “information syndemic,” the aggregation of three concurrent epidemics (misinformation, polarization, and online harassment) that interact with each other and are exacerbated by social, environmental, and structural factors to create a burden greater than the sum of their parts.

Photo of Jaigris Hodson.

“They’re like force multipliers,” Hodson explains. “You can’t just address polarization or online harassment in isolation, because the other two issues will mean it’ll just pop right back up. It’s kind of like whack-a-mole.”

The dynamics work in multiple directions. Polarization drives people to share misinformation that supports their worldview. Misinformation deepens polarization by creating fundamentally different understandings of reality. Online harassment silences evidence-based voices and pushes people into tight-knit communities where misinformation goes unchallenged.

“It’s so important to aggregate the views of a variety of experts from different parts of the country, from different political backgrounds, from different institutions. This process is the process that we need for our times.”

Rebuilding Trust, One Conversation at a Time

If the problem is syndemic, Hodson argues, solutions must be systemic. Their current research includes developing an AI chatbot to train physicians in vaccine conversations—a challenge sitting at the intersection of all three forces.

The chatbot helps doctors practice communication techniques shown to be effective: listening to patients’ concerns, reflecting them back, and lowering the temperature. “It’s in our relationships with each other that we will hopefully be able to regain some trust,” Hodson says. If successful, the model could help people have better conversations about other polarizing topics, from climate change to contentious policy issues.

A Model for Evidence in Polarized Times

Reflecting on their involvement with the CCA, Hodson has seen how rigorous, diverse expert review can cut through polarization. “It’s so important to aggregate the views of a variety of experts from different parts of the country, from different political backgrounds, from different institutions. This process is the process that we need for our times.”

While clear-eyed about challenges ahead, Hodson finds hope in the CCA model. By bringing diverse experts together to build consensus, then sending them into their communities, the CCA creates ripples of trust through personal relationships. “It’s in those closer relationships when we’re talking to people we know, where we really have the opportunity to make a difference. That is why I can maintain hope.”

Quick Q&A with Dr. Jaigris Hodson

What’s the most interesting book you’ve read recently?

I’ve almost finished a book called Quantum Bullshit by Chris Ferrie, who is a Canadian academic. It’s about all the different ways that quantum physics has been misused to sell wellness and grift products. It’s about misinformation, but it’s also about quantum physics, and the author is really funny. I highly recommend it.

Any podcast, newsletter, or thinker you never miss?

There’s a podcast called Dystopia Now, and it’s a conversation between a philosopher and a comedian about our times in this technological oligarchy in which we live, and just how Silicon Valley is contributing to it.

What’s a misconception about your work that you wish more people understood?

That you can just fix polarization by having people be nicer to each other.

Can you share a recent moment when evidence made you change your mind?

It’s related to COVID. I had cancer during COVID and it was a nightmare. I’ve always been really militant about vaccinations, but the experience taught me why some people would choose not to vaccinate. While I still am pro-vaccination and pro-herd immunity, I now understand why the conversation needs to have nuance. That’s precisely why I’m working on this chatbot project around having better conversations.

Where do you go or what do you do to recharge your curiosity?

I walk a lot. When you’re walking, your mind just wanders. Sometimes it’s just really meditative and I don’t think of a lot of things, but other times when I’m walking, suddenly, a connection will be made.

What keeps you up at night?

I am on the side of evidence-based communication. But to understand the potential challenges to evidence-based communication, I listen a lot to commentators from the other side——people who spread misinformation either intentionally or unintentionally. What keeps me up at night is the fact that sometimes the arguments they use are the same arguments we use. It’s just flipped. It’s like the upside down. If we are both accusing each other of the same thing, how will we have a chance at overcoming this polarization? Because we are literally yelling the same insults across a divide.

About Dr. Jaigris Hodson

Dr. Jaigris Hodson is the Canada Research Chair in Digital Misinformation, Polarization and Anti-Social Media at Royal Roads University. They are a member of the CCA Scientific Advisory Committee and previously served on the Expert Panel on the Socioeconomic Impacts of Science and Health Misinformation. The report, Fault Lines, details how science and health misinformation can proliferate and its impacts on individuals, communities, and society.


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